Vince Gilligan and Rhea Seehorn, the creators and stars of Apple TV's 'Pluribus', discuss their creative process and the deep connection they share through their work. They reflect on their first meeting, the importance of Rhea's portrayal of Kim Wexler, and the evolution of their collaboration over the years. The interview delves into their unique shorthand, the challenges of working with the same crew from 'Better Call Saul', and the personal growth they've experienced through their characters. Gilligan and Seehorn explore the complexities of Carol Sturka's character, the curmudgeonly aspects of their own personalities, and the importance of authenticity in their performances. They also discuss the process of taking a scene 'until it breaks' and the trust they have in each other's creative instincts. The interview highlights the deep respect and camaraderie they've built over their decade-long partnership, and the joy they find in their shared passion for storytelling.